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in the books. romney and obama facing off last night in their first presidential debate. among the topics they sparred over, revenue. take a listen. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. now, governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> absolutely. look, the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and how we balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. >> for reaction from the obama campaign, the co-founder and former ceo of car max, austin leggen joins us from richmond, virginia. austin, good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you? >> good. i'd love to get your take on that specific moment which has been cited by many to be one of romney's most coherent, concise arguments for his view of the role of government. you agree? >> well, it may have been quick and a good sound bite, but it's not very coherent or concise. what he says is growth will give you revenue which will give you growth. i mean, what he's saying is i'll gr
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